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When at university about 1970 I asked why conflict pervades our lives. After years I found the answer is just the question of meaning I call the "last why" since it will never be answered. Still, we try and have tried to "fill the void" behind "Why am I?" in ways that conflict, since it was first asked by 'Eve'. Thus we've created our open-ended history of conflict we will close if we don't instead choose the "ideal reaction to the void".

In 2005 I decided to see if I was a fool for asking by seeking reaction to my analysis the only way an anonymous carpenter could, on this website. I first tried to attract visits with prose posts but changed to
my poems because concrete concentrated thought is memorable. I've had to advertise so I could be twice the fool but I remain undecided. Doug.E.Barr  

 

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Tuesday
Sep262006

GOD

Of course God is! No, God is not!
We can't untie this Gordian knot.
We probe, we pull, we twist, we turn
Thus live our lives and all we learn
There is no way to see God's face.
All we can do is our faith place
In what it seems we are to be,
Our realized capacity.

If we in doctrine are entwined
The only fact that we will find,
God isn't in religious 'thread'.
When wound up in it, God is dead.
If God there is, then God will be
Within, by being, naturally.
Humanity may yet survive
By seeing if God is alive. 

God's voice; God's will; God's message

Reader Comments (14)

wow thats butiful!!

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Thanks! Doug.E.Barr

October 6, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterjessica

that was nice you now becauseI thik that is true and because I love Jesus

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That is nice. Doug.E.Barr

January 31, 2009 | Unregistered Commentermelqui

I like the image of "gordian knot". If god exists, he is not found in the religions of old but only within-- or in a living person.

I think it is time for us to cut the gordian knot, but only a great conquerer can do that!

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Thanks for your thoughts. I am not sure about needing to cut the knot though. I am inclined to think it has been hacked to pieces; and we are living with the consequences. If anything I think we should retie the knot and unite humanity around uncertainty and wonder. Doug.E.Barr

August 6, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterdustin

we ought 2 believe cause we are living proof thanks ::::

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We are dying proof of self-destruction so I am not sure how you can believe "we are living proof" of God. Doug.E.Barr

September 9, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterjude

YOU ARE A VERY CONFUSED PERSON. GOD DIED ON THE CROSS FOR OUR SINS. AND THEN HE WAS RESSURECTED. NO HE IS NOT DEAD. HE IS VERY MUCH ALIVE. HE IS IN EVERYTHING ON THIS EARTH WHETHER IT BE IN THE FLOWERS OR THE TREES. HE'S EVEN IN YOU AND ME. GOD IS EVERY WHERE. EVERY WHERE YOU LOOK AND EVERY WHERE YOU GO.

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This is one of 16 comments Crystal left. If you are interested in my general response to all of them you can read it here. Doug.E.Barr

October 25, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterCrystal F

With such an interest in philosophy and theological writing surrounding the meaning of life, I am sure you are familiar with C.S. Lewis's theological writings. If not I would highly recommend the read. Mere Christianity, The Problem of Pain, A Grief Observed and many more.

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I appreciate you initiating a chat. I am aware of C.S. Lewis and I know anyone who has read and recommends his writings is a highly educated Christian. However, I won't be following your recommendations because my interest in "philosophy and theological writings" ended 40 years ago.

I inherited Christianity but rather than focusing on what I was being taught when I was in my early teens, I began to wonder why there were so many varieties of Christianity evident in the city of 30,000 where I grew up. That city was in the middle of Ontario, Canada so except for knowing Jesus began as the king of the Jews, it was only when I took a comparative religion course in university that I began to wonder why there were at least three other major religions and a number of significant 'offspring' that also tried to explain life.

At the same time, I was introduced to the writings of several theologians and several hundred philosophers. The theologians included my uncle, Alvin C. Porteous who wrote "Prophetic Voices in Contemporary Theology" in which he tried to harmonize the discordant voices of Tillich, Bonhoeffer, Barth, Niebuhr, and Bultmann. The philosophers were all those contained in Fredrick Copleston's 9 volume history of philosophy. When I finished reading this mountain of indisputable evidence I was compelled to conclude religious/philosophical writings rather than explain life only contribute to mass confusion. So I quit compiling evidence before I got to C.S. Lewis.

Instead I looked elsewhere for the explanation of life. Anyone with a mind open to the explanation can find the shortest version in the subtitle of my website. For a longer version there is "Life: a reaction to the void". It requires about 10 minutes to read the explanation in "The Last Why: the poem" or if rhyming couplets are a problem it can be read in "The Last Why: the precis". "I highly…recommend the read." Doug.E.Barr

December 4, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterGodfrey

thats butiful!!

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Thanks. Doug.E.Barr

December 28, 2009 | Unregistered Commenternancy

this poem is really great....

February 1, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterangie

I liked your poem . GOD
We are the reason God is and not he gave us the choice to make
in my eyes he is the first the last the high and low
an i beleave in him.

April 23, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterolivia sanchez

I know at times you happen to tackle controversial subjects and write poems of persons [deceased and otherwise] but you really ought to leave God alone and from this equation! He did not cause mankind's malaise nor despair - nor create a VOID! I am a true believer as all my relations and ancestors, and others - atheists in themselves (who ought not to publicly advertise their lack of believe for all to see) fail to realise the Christian doctrine means, in itself FAITH, HOPE AND CHARITY - not least of these is charity - for with the first two and not the third one has nothing - SIMPLY A VOID. Keep one's personal thoughts to oneself - it only causes controversy and the world is in as bad a state as it can possibly be without the latter! Ciao for now X:(.

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It is difficult for me to respond to your comment because if you actually read my poem then I wonder if you have the ability to understand what I am saying and it is not my fault. You remind me of my sister, also a "true believer" and a university lecturer who nevertheless never allowed herself to use her mind. Our mother lives with me and so that my sister's visits were less awkward I suggested we try to get along better. She replied, "Your unbelief is an impediment to our getting along." I didn't even try to explain to her that while beliefs and disbelief cause conflict, unbelief has no effect.

Both of you "fail to realize the Christian doctrine…causes controversy and the world is in as bad a state as it can possible be" partly because of it. To diminish the conflict "a true believer …ought not to advertise their …belief for all to see…" One should at least "keep one's thoughts to oneself." It will be best though to undo beliefs that restrict us and replaced them with the freedom of common wonder. Then we could get along.

To that end, using any subject that helps, I will continue to shed light on the facts that next to our belief in Economy, religious beliefs cause the most conflict in our existence; and to eliminate conflict, we must eliminate our beliefs. Doug.E.Barr

April 30, 2010 | Unregistered Commentersbamcteckbc

Doug wrote: " . . . God is not in religious 'thread'.
When wound up in it, God is dead."

Now you are getting somewhere! What you wrote in your poem is sad but true.
Takes a true heart to see this.
Without what they call church, however, at least people are left to freely embark on their
own search for the 'living' God in more promising places.
Like their heart.

June 29, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterGloria

god god is graicous kind loving and caring.i hope he wont mind,my poems about him.he probaly wont because hes kind and one of a kind truly. yours tell the end.

August 30, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterdestiny

Jesus Is In Loven With YA

January 2, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterJennifer Wesley

Hi Doug,
Thanks for your comment on my Huffington Post Blog, "From Nun to None". I love your beatitude for us "nones", for God is within and "without". As in my book, "A Change of Habit", it took me years on my spiritual journey to learn the lessons of your beautiful poem. Thanks again

March 1, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterPatty Kogutek

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